Friday, May 16, 2008

CYA Fail

God I just love when ignorant people get schooled. Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you a premium, Grade A submission for the Fail Blog. Be sure to watch the whole video...


"If you don't know what appeasement means don't use the word. It's giving away things to the enemy, not talking to the enemy."

15 Comments:

Blogger Dave M said...

Anyone who makes Chris Matthews look sane and reasonable has got to be a real piece of work. I can't imagine why the producer let that crackhead go on so long.

10:28 PM  
Blogger Trihardist said...

Haha! Rhetoric fail!

12:42 AM  
Blogger SixTwoThree said...

I saw this last night and was amazed. It was like watching a guy toe the line for IM and not do the training, but think for sure he'd podium. This guy was ignorant and deserved to be called on it.

1:46 AM  
Blogger Jon (was) in Michigan said...

Saw it just last night. Deliciously enjoyable. :)

6:45 AM  
Blogger tri.bassett said...

oh my god
it was like watching a slow motion train wreck.

i think i wet myself laughing...

7:45 AM  
Blogger Kevin said...

While I dont agree with Matthews statement on appeasement, that guy was definitely an idiot.

8:12 AM  
Anonymous ramster said...

As a New Yorker somewhat familiar with Mark Green, I would like to compliment him on finally learning to shut his mouth, nice job Mark!

Isn't Kevin James that stand up comedian guy, i think he has a sitcom called king of queens. He lost a lot of weight, nice job Kevin!

Chris Matthews, uh, journalistic objectivity? What was the purpose of this interview? If it was to carry water for the Obama campaign, nice job, Chris!

1:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yes, that guy was an idiot.

However:

appeasement: to bring to a state of peace, quiet, ease, calm, or contentment; pacify; soothe: (dictionary.com)

So yes, talking to can be appeasement, fails all around.

2:58 PM  
Blogger Wil said...

Anon, thanks for looking up the definition, however there is a specific context for the term in this case. Bush referenced Chamberlain's actions with the Nazis in his comments -- the action of giving Hitler half of Checkoslovakia.

"Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along."

"We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: 'Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is — the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history..."

Given the timing, it's clearly a slam on Obama who has made no secret of his wishes to talk with Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Not only was it poor form for the President to bring partisan issues into the mix at the wrong time and in the wrong place, even the suggestion of this as a slam on anyone who would be his successor, but the reference in general is crap because Obama isn't proposing doing what Chamberlain did; he just wants to talk! Bush himself doesn't even really believe "talking and negotiating" is weak and a waste of time, if he does, what was negotiating with Gadhafy and getting him to stand down? What were his negotiations with North Korea?

In fact, W suggesting talking is essentially weak and a waste of time is almost painfully ironic since getting Gadhafy to disassemble his weapons program is in fact the only thing that HAS been considered a success in the Middle East under this administration.

Fortunately there are one or two politicians who recognize that everyday Joes understand politics and know those Men In Black flashy things don't really erase our memories.

Good Lord how long until November...

4:30 PM  
Blogger 21stCenturyMom said...

I genreally detest Chris Matthews but I was sort of loving him for this one!

Blown dry, bloviating, blowhards need to learn when to STFU.

4:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

context is important. dont forget where bush was speaking, and the reason for his visit there.

only about 5 months more of this. not too bad.

7:56 PM  
Blogger m said...

ha, ha. That is too funny.

7:59 AM  
Blogger Lauren said...

Wow. That was just painful to watch. Kevin James's resposne was childlike. The yelling-avoidance tactic just made it worse. Why can't people learn that in debate/discussion, just because you YELL your response, doesn't make it accepted.

"HE WAS AN APPEASER!!!"

8:55 AM  
Blogger a.maria said...

i don't follow politics in the least, gunna be real honest here..

but THAT, was damn funny.

thanks for the post!

11:41 AM  
Blogger TexanInOK said...

If you talk louder, it makes you more likely to be right.

5:52 PM  

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